| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Guest
|
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: Question 22 |
|
|
In question number 22, I don't see where hydrolysis is occuring. Where is the OH group adding to make a carboxylic acid?
Thank you! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
admin Site Admin
Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 2176
|
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
|
|
Of course, hydrolysis litterally means the adding of water (hydro) in order to break apart a molecule (lysis). In other words, even without knowing the mechanism, just by the fact that in the last step, acidic water is added to a molecule that clearly breaks apart, should alert you to the fact that hydrolysis is happening. And that is the limit to what you would be expected to know to solve that aspect to this problem.
But just for fun, we'll go further. To begin with, all the products of the final reaction are not present (the other organic product is not there). So when I do orgo, I often start by looking at the most charged species to see what it would do. Well we have H+ so it will be attracted to the delta negative oxygens. The only stable intermediate would be if it attacks the carbonyl oxygen to the right of the molecule creating an -OH and a formal positive charge on the central carbon which is now the most charged species. So, similar to acetal/ketal formation, the oxygen of the water (H2O) attacks the positive carbon creating a tetrahedryl intermediate. When the carbonyl group is reformed (kicking out the catalyst proton) -OC2H5 would normally have to leave but if the heat is tremendous, perhaps the carbon-carbon bond would break (not something that you would be asked to deal with on the MCAT but when the question clearly points to hydrolysis then you roll with it). |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
jvuofm1709
Joined: 06 May 2010 Posts: 19
|
Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 4:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| one of the end products is CO2. This is the most oxidized carbon can get, and no other reactants have a carbon with this oxidation state. A carbon is OXIDIZED into CO2. There is no right answer to this question, all 4 occur. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
calena7178147
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 44
|
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:20 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I agree with the explanation as there is no redox occurring. Moreover, the CO2 comes from part of the previous molecular structure with also a CO2 component within the overall structure. By allocating the respective oxidation states to each element one would conclude that redox does not necessarily occur as the carbon with the two oxygens as a final product of CO2 also has two oxygens attached in the previous precursor molecular structure. So the answer is correctly seen as C (as stated). |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
jsfkt78927
Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 44
|
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tisk...tisk...
Oxidation in organic chemistry is the addition of oxygen bonds. The oxidation state changes. Period. If you knew how do draw out structures you would surely realize (maybe not) that the carbon has two oxygens double bonded to it. Where as previously it only had 3 oxygen bonds, ie: one double bonded oxygen and one singly bonded oxygen. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|