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yfangl097543
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: Question 25 |
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| I'm not sure if the calculations in the explanation is correct, since the question says that 3/4 of the height is submerged, not 3/4 of the total mass of the ball. |
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admin Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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The calculation is correct.
| Quote: | | 3/4 of the height is submerged, not 3/4 of the total mass of the ball. |
Agreed, that it is not directly related to mass but it is related to density. To be more specific, specific gravity is equal to the fraction of the height of a buoyant object below the surface of the fluid. Thus if SG = 0.70, then 70% of the height of the object would be immersed in the fluid (this use of SG is commonly tested on the real MCAT). |
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yfangl097543
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Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:22 am Post subject: |
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This doesn't seem to make sense to me, because of Archimede's principle:
The buoyant force is equal to the weight of fluid displaced, so since the ball is not moving up or down, the weight of the ball must be equal to the buoyant force.
Let's say that the volume of the ball is 5 units, so since 3/4 of the HEIGHT of the ball is submerged, the volume submerged must be more than 3/4 of 5 because of the shape of the ball. So let's say that 4 units of the ball's volume is submerged as an approximation.
Therefore, F(buoyant) = Weight of ball, so
volume of fluid X displaced (same of volume of ball submerged) * density of fluid X * gravity = 5 units * density of ball (determined to be .5) * gravity, so
4 * d of fluid X = 5 * .5,
d of fluid X = 2.5 / 4 = .625
Therefore, unless 3/4 of the VOLUME of the ball is submerged, the density of the fluid cannot be .67
Am I missing something? |
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admin Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: Archimedes Principle and Specific Gravity |
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No, you're not missing something, the physics you used is good.
It is true that normally on the MCAT the object immersed is a block. That way, the rule of thumb regarding SG being the fraction of the height submerged is precise. However, given your approximations, you have shown that it is also a reasonable approximation even if the shape is a sphere (the answer being 0.63 g/cc vs 0.67 g/cc with no answer choices even close).
For those who wish to see the proof regarding a block or cube:
Let h = the height of the block
Let x = the height of the block above the surface of the fluid
Let A = the area of the bottom surface of the block
The volume of displaced water is the volume of the object beneath the surface of the water:
V = (h - x) A
As you mentioned, according to Archimedes' principle, the upward buoyant force on the block is the weight of the water displaced:
Fb = W(water) = D(water)g(h - x)A
where D(water) is the density of water. This must balance the weight W of the block:
Fb = W = DgAh
where D is the density of the block. Thus:
D(water)g(h - x)A = DgAh
Cancel "g" and "A" on both sides and rearrange the equation. Now we have the fractional height of the block above the surface of water given by:
x/h = 1 - SG
where SG = D/D(water)
This link below does not have the proof as above but it has an example of its use:
http://webspinners.com/dlblanc/tectonic/floating.php |
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dnpgr16513
Joined: 14 Jun 2010 Posts: 75
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you flip 3/4 to 4/3? Please help me!
THANKS |
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jellywing_2058
Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 179
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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This is basic math. See the following:
ρball/ρl = 3/4
ρl/pball = 4/3
pl = pball (4/3)
pl = 0.5 g/cm3 x 4/3
pl = 1/2 g/cm3 x 4/3
pl = 2/3 g/cm3
pl = 0.67 g/cm3. |
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dnpgr16513
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Ok, great! That's not too bad.. |
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hua8986059
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 55
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I've noticed that the stuff that MCAT likes to stress are the stuff that actually are very medically applicable. I worked at a cardiologist convention where they talked about ideal fluid flow etc... good stuff to learn |
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