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param_8794381
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| This question is wrong.. the passage info itself is wrong... the effective mass must be m1*m2/(m1+m2).. the unit must be a *mass unit*.. The way it is stated in the passage it is inverse mass... inappropriate I would assume.. the spring constant has effective units of kg/second^2. So to cancel the kilograms, kg must be at bottom... for that the formula for effective mass has to change |
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jellywing_2058
Joined: 04 May 2009 Posts: 179
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Here is how you do this:
v= (1/2π) x √(k/M) where M = (m1+m2/m1*m2)
v= (1/2π) x √[k/(m1+m2/m1*m2)]
v= (1/2π) x √[(k*m1*m2)/(m1+m2]
When each m is doubled:
v= (1/2π) x √[(k*2m1*2m2)/(2m1+2m2)]
v= (1/2π) x √[4k*m1*m2)/(2(m1+m2)]
v= (1/2π) x √[2k*m1*m2)/(m1+m2)]
So v= (1/2π) x √[2k*m1*m2)/(m1+m2)] is bigger than v= (1/2π) x √[k/(m1+m2/m1*m2)] by a factor of √2. |
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param_8794381
Joined: 14 Aug 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I know how to sub in simple equations. I am saying the question is wrong. The formula in the passage gives you a unit of 1/kg for effective mass... mass is never in 1/kg units |
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hua8986059
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 55
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| param_8794381 wrote: | | I know how to sub in simple equations. I am saying the question is wrong. The formula in the passage gives you a unit of 1/kg for effective mass... mass is never in 1/kg units |
ya well most people wouldn't have caught that lol.
(kg)/kg^2 = 1/kg I see where you were headed with this lol..
however if they didn't "make up" that formula it would be even harder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_mass_%28spring-mass_system%29
FYI. lol.. concept of effective mass is beyond our scope anyways. I think this was just plug and chug problem gone wrong. Therefore difficulty was labeled "intense" |
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