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mvenus9292913



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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Question 40 Reply with quote

I don't get how the answer was arrived at.

Initially, the velocity of the electron has only a non-zero x-component that is unaffected by the electric force in the y-direction. The final velocity has a y-component given by: vy = vx x tan(q) = 3 m/s.


I understand that the x component stays the same, but where do you get that equation for the y-component, and how do you arrive at the final velocity?
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mcat_premed3832



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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Projectile Motion Problem Reply with quote

OK, so you are comfortable that Vx is 3 m/s and remains that way.

Consider a 45-45-90 triangle (you must memorize that one and a 30-60-90 triangle for the MCAT; you can find both here: http://www.goldstandard-mcat.com/physics-equation-lists/); tan 45 is 1. Even if you did not know that, the ratio of the x to the y sides of the triangle is 1:1. Either way, if Vx is 3 then Vy is also 3.

Now that you have Vx and Vy, then you have a right angle triangle. So to get the hypotenuse (the final velocity), just use the Pythagorean theorem.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay so I think I understand why bc it is tan 45= 1 each side is equal to each other..correct? What is had been say a 30 degree angle,which brings us to the 30-60-90 triangle. This is where I get confused. I am aware of the triangle and it's sides but I am not sure what to do if the problem presented itself with the same numbers but a 30 or 60 degree angle instead of 45. Thank you
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay so I think I may have it could you tell me if my reasoning is correct.
If it had been a 30 degree angle you would have set it up as:

tan 30= y(opp)/ x (adj)
xtan30= y
3tan30=y

Is that right? Also is the reason that the Vx is 3 m/s because it is traveling horizontally through the plates and is not affected by the plate charges or the field?
thank you
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Okay so I think I may have it could you tell me if my reasoning is correct.
If it had been a 30 degree angle you would have set it up as:

tan 30= y(opp)/ x (adj)
xtan30= y
3tan30=y

Is that right?


Yes


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Also is the reason that the Vx is 3 m/s because it is traveling horizontally through the plates and is not affected by the plate charges or the field?


No. After all, the point of the problem is to determine the hypotenuse which is the true velocity of the electron due to the fact that it is deflected off its initial path (x) by the charges in the electric field. The initial speed is the speed of the electron as it leaves the electron gun (or beam). Think of it like a projectile at the moment it leaves a person's hand then it is affected by a gravitational field; in this problem it is an electrical field.
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balak502987



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't the initial horizontal velocity be equal to 3cos(45) since the electron is projected at an angle of 45degrees.
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priya.bork7031



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so. The electron only deflects after its passed a space where it has not been deflected (theta=0), it only deflects after entering the space between the capacitors
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nedaa.asba6809



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before entering the capacitors the electron’s velocity in the x-direction was 3 m/s, but after entering the space between the capacitors it’s deflected and as a result the electron will have both a velocity in the x-direction and in the y-direction. Keeping in mind that the velocity in the x- direction stays constant, the velocity in the y- direction is (3 m/s tan 45).
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GraemeMatt8033



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm i understand the reasoning behind everything, I just don't understand why you can't use the cos of 45 and then solve for the hypotenuse??? it gives you a different answer
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jellywing_2058



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it does work. Since
cos(angle)= adjacent/hypotenuse, you get
cos45= Vx/Vtotal
cos45= 3/Vtotal
Vtotal=3/cos45
Vtotal=4.24 m/s = 3x(square root of 2) m/s
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